BUCKTAIL JIGS & STREAMERS FOR WALLEYES

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BUCKTAIL JIGS & STREAMERS FOR WALLEYES

BUCKTAIL JIGS & STREAMERS FOR WALLEYES

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See, Glad I ask questions. Thanks Dan! Mike
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Jason, Them flys look good, They will help give me some ideas once I get going. But you may have to come up north here in spring to show me how to work them on the fox in Oshkosh.. Mike
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I always used powder paints and find it hard to get two color combos. I have a bunch of vinyl paints I bought here when sportsmans warehouse shut their doors but have never used them. I was thinking about getting a cheap air brush once to see how I can do attempting to get two color jigs. I need things to do over winter so that I dont go stir crazy. Hey Dan, What are Erie jigs good for? Or I should say do they they work well? I seen the molds the other day at Gander Mountain and I was curious about them. I thought they would look good with hair or tinsel on them. Let me know.. Mike[url=http://www.do-itmolds.com/prodmolds.aspx?c=189]http://www.do-itmolds.com... This message was edited by Mikey H on 11-28-08 @ 10:03 AM
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Mike, a few color combos I find work great are: chartreuse or orange jighead with chartreuse/white hair pink jighead with white hair a white jighead with purple hair/gold tinsel orange or chartreuse jighead with chartruese/orange hair Those are my confidence colors for bucktail jigs. I always start with the pink/white combo for some reason, and rarely do I have to switch from that color but, if you can vertical jig two rods at the same time, try 2 different colors on each rod. I will have to try that color combo you showed in your picture. I was also thinking maybe red/orange combo with a chartreuse jighead would be good also........ Jason Weckerle Both of my Progressive Rock band pages: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 and www.myspace.com/jasonweckerle FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info
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Dan one thing I dont need is jigs. I have thousands of the things in every shape and color. Majority I made myself but could never get a decent finish on them. I liked the finish on your jigs and thought you made them yourself. I ordered a rotary vice and a couple tools and hope to get started on making hair jigs and flys soon. Mike
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That indeed was a very huge sauger, 24 inchers are giants. Even 20 inchers are giants, my biggest was 21 inches from the Rock River. And I wouldnt have known in was a 21 inch sauger if the guy next to me didnt tell me. It was my first sauger and I was 14 years old. I have caught many 15-16 inch perch from Lake Michigan so that is not all that rare but, Lake Michigan perch are giants compared to their inland lakes relatives. The next 15-16s I catch are going on the wall, either replicas or skin mounts. I just dont want my fish tearing,shrinking, or fading over time. For artificial fur try a fur called CRAFT FUR. It may be the same as Fun Fur but, I like tieing combos of bucktail and craft fur sometimes. They both have very different action...... Jason Weckerle My Progressive Rock bands page: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info
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Here are just a few of my flys, I wasnt picky about which ones I picked for the photo because these things do not have to be pieces of artwork to catch fish. Color and length is all that matters. Th ekey is to tie as many as you can and I dont put fancy eyes, or anything like that on my streamers. When they are whipping past a school of walleyes or whitebass they dont care if it has eyes.....FILE IS ATTACHED AT THE BOTTOM SO JUST CLICK ON IT TO VIEW THE PICTURE..... Jason Weckerle My Progressive Rock bands page: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info This message was edited by IvoryForest on 11-26-08 @ 11:19 PM
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I will take some pics tonight of my creations and show you what they look like. Thanks for the info Dan, I will try your tricks with the jigs and see what happens. It looks deadly...... Jason Weckerle My Progressive Rock bands page: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info
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Thanks for the tips Dan! Do you pour and paint them jigs also? Mike
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DAN....Nice creations, what is that exactly on your jigs and does it make a huge difference with or without that tied on your jigs? Do you tie any hair to them or just make bodys on your jigs? CARL.......NO MEAT ON THE HOOKS FOR THE STREAMERS!!!! I mean if you are anchored and still fishing a bottom rig you can tip the hooks with small fatheads but, it is great without minnows. Use 3 WAY RIG and tie 2-3 flys on one leader 12 inches apart. I like splitshot sinkers or pencil lead because of its snag resistant tendency to keep me fishing. Sure the flys snag up sometimes but, not as much as a big bell sinker would. Apply a snap jigging retrieve. Some days they want more snap, some they want more twitch. I like to use 2 different colors on one rod to see which one is getting the most attention, and because sometimes their preference changes by the minute. I use streamers that are handmade and, I tie tons of color combos. Last night I tied 7 streamers and they had bucktail hair combos that were chartreuse/white, orange/white, purple/white, purple/gold, and gold/white. I am gonna tie some that are orange/chartreuse, and purple/chartruese. I know these colors will get bit up to no end. They are all hot colors already for walleyes and whitebass. But for some reason PURPLE gets hit ALOT!!!!! Even in dark water purple or anything with purple gets slammed. Red/white is also another popular streamer pattern but, I tend to stick outside the circle of what everyone else uses. I actually tie these baits for whitebass mostly but since they have become so popular for spring and fall river walleyes up at the Winnebago System, and I have caught many walleyes on them I will always rig one rod with some flys on river outings. Plus the crappies in rivers love them to. I even went as far as adding some length to them so they get the attention of walleyes more. My old ones were 2-3 inchers,now they are 3 1/2 - 4 inchers. AND YES WHITEBASS ARE TASTY IN COLDWATER!!!!! The best whitebass I ever ate came from icefishing them. You want real fun, icefish whitebass. Find a massive school of them, throw a small white hairjig, Swedish Pimple, or Jigging Rapala down a hole and have fun. But dont use the crappie and bluegill rods, use a light-medium/light action icefishing rod with 4-6 pound test because they fight hard......... Jason Weckerle My Progressive Rock bands page: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info This message was edited by IvoryForest on 11-26-08 @ 1:01 PM
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Hi Jason, Indeed white bass are fun to catch, they hit hard and fight hard. Good to eat, I prefer them out of cold water as in spring, smoked they are very tasty. Yeah the hair jig seems to have died, but they are still my #1 for post spawn eyes on rivers vertical jigging, the big walleyes just hammer these jigs. Not sure why they work best for me post spawn only, perhaps they are looking for a big profile then. I bought some streamers last spring but only got to use them once, after reading your post I am anxious to put more time into them next spring. Do you put any meat or anything on your streamers? Good Fishin! Carl Hinkens www.thenextbite.com
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I can actually finish a fly in about a minute in a half to 2 minutes. I see streamers that sometimes look worse then mine that sell for $3.50/fly. I would be a rich man if these streamers sell because mine are actually not to shabby looking. AND THEY CATCH FISH!!!! I sold $35.00 worth of them down at the Rock River one day because I was the only one seen catching fish and the guy next to me nailed a 24 inch walleye and 31 inch pike on his first 2 casts. I was impressed that something I made actually brought this guy success. It is so easy to tie streamers it is unreal. You will need strong thread though. Bucktail hair can slide out of the thread if it is not tight enough. It is a great way to pass time no doubt. I use my bucktail jigs every once in awhile but that is because I am loaded with so many jigheads,plastics, and presentations. I have caught fish on pink/white, and charteuse/white quite a few times though. Last night I just took a big blue soft plastics worm book I use to put my bass fishing plastics in and duct taped a styrofoam cut out into the book. Now all my streamers are neatly stored in this book and organized. I was sick of storing my flies in a tangled mess in ZipLok bags. I cant wait to make more and experiment with new patterns. I love whitebass fishing and people who give the whitebass a bad name are insane in my opinion. These fish taste ALOT better then a crappie when soaked in milk over night, they battle hard on ultralight-medium action gear, at times they can even be better tasting then walleyes, and they can provide you with 100+ fish days. Anyone who complains about a tasty, hard fighting, and numerous fish needs to take up sewing or knitting as a hobby then. If you can actually complain about a great and underrated fish then fishing is not your sport :). If anyone tells you whitebass tastes bad, they are horrible cooks or, whoever cooked them whitebass must have been horrible cooks. I have had whitebass fried and smoked, and it tasted amazing. Very clean tasting fish. I like keeping the 10-15 inchers, whitebass over 15 inches long are very old fish. It is like eating a walleye over 20 inches, its taste appeal starts to go away. I love using the streamers because during spring and fall, you litterally catch everything on them. I know I can have confidence catching whitebass,crappies, walleyes, pike, and perch on these baits all in the same day. Even the carp nail these things which I find strange. I know exactly what you mean about Oshkosh. I use them streamers up on the Fox and Wolf also up that way. Sometimes 2 fish at a time nail both streamers I have rigged on. I caught a 20 inch walleye along the side of a whitebass at the same time once. DEADLY AND VERY OVERLOOKED PRESENTATION!!!!! Who uses bucktail jigs anymore? I know the guys on the Mississppi River love them but everywhere else it is like a lost and forgotten lure...... Jason Weckerle My Progressive Rock bands page: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info
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Most of the flies ive seen used for walleyes are simple streamer flies. Tying your own is a great way to pass the time on long cold winter evenings, and there really isnt much to it. Most fly shops carry all youll need in the way of streamer hooks and materials. I prefer hooks in sizes #4 & #6 - 4XL Streamer Hooks with a straight ringed eye. Some guys prefer size #2 hooks, but the #4 is my go-to size. A few patches of dyed bucktail in the colors you prefer (white, blue, black, yellow - those are my key ones) and a spool of red fly tying thread is about all it takes. A thread bobbin is handy but not manditory. I typically finish my heads off with a littel super glue. I do also occasionally wrap the hook shank with a little tensil thread for added flash. Once you get into it, the possibilities are endless. Really is a fun hobby! May Your Next Bite Be The BIG One!!!! Boyder - aka [url=http://www.thenextbite.com/site/featured_author.cfm?owner=1DEAD603-6137-... Boyd[/b][/i][/url] TNB Moderator/Administrator

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Its funny you bring this subject up Jason, When my wife asked what I wanted for Christmas I told her Fly tieing essentials. A vice, tools, and a few bits and pieces to get me started. I want to start tieing my own streamers and hair jigs for Walleye. I see a lot of guys also using them in Oshkosh as well for Walleye. I dont ice fish so Im always looking for things to make or do in the winter. Mike
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STREAMERS: I hand tie my own streamer flys for whitebass fishing during spring and fall and I have caught tons of walleyes on them. I hear the Wolf River has a hot bite for walleyes that come on streamers. I catch so many species of gamefish and panfish on streamers that I wonder why more people dont add this trick to their bag of tricks. They mimic a small group of minnows moving through the current. I cast these streamers on Wolf River Rigs (3 way Rigs) and I slowly work them back to shore with a slow reeling/twitching retrieve. I hear that trolling slowly up river into the current and pumping the rod every 5-10 seconds can also produce fish. The sinkers I use are thin dropshot pencil lead and wolf river sinkers. Sometimes even big splitshot sinkers work well in snaggy enviroments because when you snag them up you can just pull them off with a slight tug and you can keep your whole rig. I tie 2-3 of these streamers 12 inches apart on one 4-5 foot leader of 8 pound test mono. As far as colors go I find the patterns purple/red/gold, purple/gold, purple/white, red/silver/white, chartreuse/orange, chartruese/silver/white, orange/white, pink/white, pink/orange, light blue/white/silver, and even black/green to be amazing. I have alot of luck though with whites and purples, and most colors containing white or purple. Even in dark water purple still works which is surprising but true. I could not believe such a dark color gets their eyes turning in murky water. It is very cheap to make these streamers, and it is a purchase and hobby well worth seeking. If you want walleyes, whitebass, crappies, and even bass and pike, and want to have an edge over other anglers, then take the time to practice tying these streamers. I bought a cheap $6.00 fly tying vice. Buck tails are $4.00/tail. You can make loads of flys with one tail. I buy chartreuse, orange,white,black, light blue, and purple so that is $20.00 in tails alone. Then I buy gold, and silver tinsel strands for $2.00/piece. Thread is about $1.50/spool, thin and durable is the key. Then I use size 6,4,or 2 Aberdeen hooks which can be $8.00 for 100 hooks. Gold hooks or plain, it doesnt matter as long as they are aberdeen hooks. Then sinkers, swivels, and monofilament leader material is all you need. You are looking to blow $40-$50 but it is well worth it. Make sure your streamers are at least 3-4 inches long, they dont have to be fancy looking because the fish think they are minnows anways but, 3-4 inches is a good length for the streamers. I suggest learning how to tie these streamer flys. I tie tons during Winter. It is a good hobby to keep your mind sharp on fishing, and get you some great new baits. BUCKTAIL JIGS: I also hand tie my own bucktail jigs and enjoy using them. My favorite patterns vary from a pink jighead/white hair, or chartreuse/white, chartreuse/orange, purple/white, and light blue/white. I tie 1/32-1/4 ounce jigs for everything from crappies and whitebass, to walleyes and saugers. I notice not alot of guys use bucktail jigs anymore. I use to see old timers catching loads of walleyes on bucktails, and now I do to but, all the plastics,livebait, and crankbaits took over the old fashioned bucktail for popularity. And the bucktail jig is deadly. I caught walleyes and saugers with or without minnows tipped on the hooks. I sometimes like my own creations over store bought ones because they have the right amount of hair, and my own color combos. Also catching fish on my own streamers and bucktails is rewarding because my creations caught the fish. Does anyone here use streamers or bucktail jigs anymore? What color patterns are you favorite and why? Any retrieves work best for you? Is anyone else here so hooked on fishing that they take the time and effort to tie lures for fishing walleyes and whitebass? Anyone here very passionate about them very tasty and hard fighting fish WHITEBASS???? I am curious how many of you actually tie,use, or are interested in learning about streamers and bucktails. Jason Weckerle My Progressive Rock bands page: www.myspace.com/ivoryforest1 FOR FANS OF PINK FLOYD, OPETH, DREAM THEATER, RUSH, PORCUPINE TREE and MORE I also have a fishing info website of my own at: www.freewebs.com/fishing-info This message was edited by IvoryForest on 11-25-08 @ 6:24 AM
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